Amodel Mi-12 (v-12) in 1/72 - Work In Progress, Part 2

Hello Fellow Rotorheads,

I don't get to spend much time modeling during the week, and two out of the last four weekends have found me out of town at my daughter's soccer tournaments.

But I have worked on the Mi-12 over the past few weeks, and made many mistakes -- the biggest one yet is having to rip out the cargo bay floor (I placed it too high), and re-do the door sills.  The model has an extra personnel door on the right front side of the fuselage (behind the cockpit door). I cannot find one on the real thing, so mine will have an extra door.

It is difficult for me to keep this model in perspective as I work on it. I keep thinking it is in 1/48 scale and it is not, it is 1/72.  When you review the photos, look at the cutting mat behind them. These squares are 1" (2.54cm), which of course is 72" scale. The negine nacelles alone would house two large 1/72 scale cars.

This kit is the the typical limited-run type injection kit in it's quality, but for the money, I really expected more. Compared to new injection molded kits produced today, it's junk. It is on-par with some of the worse Mach2 kits, if you have ever seen any. Not much flash, but fit is horrible, especially those parts with multiple compound curves.

Here's a special bonus for those of you that love to clean up parts after cutting them from sprue. You have to not only sand the edge of the parts as you would on typical injection-moulded parts, but you have to sand the TOP and BOTTOM of the part as well. I tried to illustrate this in a crude drawing of a part (dark grey) and the sprue (light grey) shown below.

Sprue Drawing

There are pits in the injection moulds, which come out to be bumps on the parts. This is Ok on sections that can be sanded smooth, but in sections where there is raised detail, it is almost impossible to fix. An example is shown below. These are some louvers that make up the back end of the engine nacelles. I have cut one out already to make way for a set of scratch-built louvers that I have not yet figured out how to make just yet. Notice that part that I have cut has little to no sinkholes, but the other part that I have not yet worked has numerous and pronounced sinkholes.

Rear Nacelle Cap Louvers

The nacelles have the worst I fit I have yet withnessed in 40 years of building models. A real pain in the ass to be completely honest. Here are a few photos of them. twenty-something parts overall, alot of dry-fitting (or should I say (dry-fiddling), cutting sanding, etc before gluing it all together.  The Chinese could have done this with half the parts with 10x the quality.

Extra styrene was added in many areas to fill in large gaps, as well ad inside the nacelles, as "tabs" to keep the parts aligned.

Both nacelles

The black lines show the joints that have to be ground down, sanded puttied and sanded again. All panel lines will need to be re-scribed.  :^ (

Nacelle 3/4 shot with black lines

You can see how bad the fit is between the bottom of the nacelle and the sides. Note white styrene filler chunks behind the inlets. Also, the transmission floor does not fit to the correct depth in the rectangular access hatches. This will require some ssssort of correction or closure of the panels.

Nacelles side

A close up of the nacelle . . .

Nacelle side again

Turbine inlets are shown below. The actual turbines came out nicely, done in Testors gloss black with an overspray of Alclad Chrome.

Turbine inlets

I am waiting until the very end of construction and assembly to add the turbine-exhausts.

I threw the tail section and wheels together while in Dallas a few weeks ago, they sill need alot of sanding. The wheel halves needed alot of sanding as well down the center line of the tire. This is my first model with both tires and wheels injection molded separately from one another. I am hoping I can make the wheel hubs fit nicely into the tires AFTER they are all painted.  They should appear to be very crisp IF the fit is correct.

Tail & wheel sets

Overall, on a scale of 1 to 10, this kit so far is about a 4 in my book. But it is THE ONLY example of this unbelieveably huge Soviet-era helicopter that can be bought as a kit. I will finish it, hopefully before the new year, as soccer season is over for the kids.

--Jon from Texas

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Personal doors on the right side of the V-12

You wrote: >>The model has an extra personnel door on the right front side of the fuselage (behind the cockpit door). I cannot find one on the real thing, so mine will have an extra door. This is correct. There is a sliding door just aft of the cockpit emergency exit on the right side. This can be seen on photos on the net or better look at the book "Red Star Vol. 26, Mil's Heavylift Helicopters" See for example pages 62 or 63. But there is something else wrong with the doors indeed. The first prototype has only two sliding doors on the right side. But it is the middle door which should notbe there. (First prototype is CCCP-21142). The V-12 is Monino is the second prototype. This one has three doors on the right side as is reflected in the model. i.e. The Model is of the second prototype and not CCCP-21142! Oliver
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V12 - Number of doors on right side

Hi,

After the hint of the doors I started looking for pictures in my "Ventilator collection".

Prototype 1, CCCP-21142 has two sliding doors on the right side. One next to the cockpit and one at the rear. There is no middle door as on the left side. Apparently is prototype outside the Mil factory in Panki / Moscow. One can see it on google earth but I have not seen a recent picture.

Prototype 2 which never got a CCCP registration and has no markings has three doors on the right side. i.e. it has the same doors as on the left side plus a sliding door next to the cockpit. It is now on display at the Airforce Museum in Monino. - I took a million pictures in Monino... but since it is the last on the walk around we had little time left... I have to go there again for a walk around.

This means: If I want to build the V-12 out of the box I need to use the Monino livery with no Markings. Or if I want to use the decals I need to remove the door.

Prototype 1 CCCP-21142 with the Le Bourget display number H-833

Prototype 1 as seen at le Bourget.

Prototype 2

Prototype 2 in Monino

...I got the box last Friday from Kiev... Can't wait to start building it.

Oliver

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Before you start the build ...

Read through all of this, alot of great information here:

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/modl_v-12.html

--Jon

 

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V12

thanks,

Iam getting scared of the size...

Oliver

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It is MASSIVE.

I am scratchbuilding more of the cargo bay again . . .  I keep thinking this thing is 1/48 scale, and have to keep reminding myself that i's 1/72.

 

-Jon

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V-12 on Wikipedia

Hi, I have updated the history of the V-12 on Wikipedia. Now it makes more sense. (Well I rewrote mot os the article) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_V-12 Regarding the size: A friend was pulling my legs on the size of the V-12 by saying at least you can use a standard display case. Just use a terarium for Crocodiles... Oliver